{"id":1004799121,"date":"2026-05-19T05:00:30","date_gmt":"2026-05-19T13:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/?p=1004799121"},"modified":"2026-05-19T07:26:10","modified_gmt":"2026-05-19T15:26:10","slug":"icsc-special-report-short-term-holds-long-term-visions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/icsc-special-report-short-term-holds-long-term-visions\/","title":{"rendered":"ICSC Special Report: Short-Term Holds, Long-Term Visions"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a0c8154dddbd&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" class=\"alignright size-full is-resized wp-lightbox-container\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" data-attachment-id=\"1004799122\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/icsc-special-report-short-term-holds-long-term-visions\/icsc1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1440\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ICSC1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg?w=1024\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on-async--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg\" alt=\"Big V Property Group's Tony D'Ambrosio talks retail investing trends with Blackstone's Elena Clarfield, Katie Grissom of Nuveen Real Estate, KPR Centers' Daniel Katz and John Manginelli of KeyBank Real Estate Capital.\" class=\"wp-image-1004799122\" style=\"width:400px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg?resize=300,225 300w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg?resize=768,576 768w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg?resize=1024,768 1024w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSC1.jpg?resize=1536,1152 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\taria-label=\"Enlarge\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.imageButtonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.imageButtonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Big V Property Group&#8217;s Tony D&#8217;Ambrosio talks retail investing trends with Blackstone&#8217;s Elena Clarfield, Katie Grissom of Nuveen Real Estate, KPR Centers&#8217; Daniel Katz and John Manginelli of KeyBank Real Estate Capital.<em> Photo by Gabriel Frank<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Pronounced supply-demand imbalances, a widespread appreciation for in-person shopping experiences and a relative immunity to market declines make retail investment a continuously compelling prospect, even if stakeholders are becoming more selective about how and where they\u2019ll allocate capital.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This was a prevailing sentiment held by panelists speaking at ICSC\u2019s Las Vegas event, hosted amid a period of economic uncertainty and weakening <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/retail-traffic-sales-rise-despite-turbulent-year\/\">consumer sentiment<\/a>. Consequently, the key to getting ahead in the sector, according to experts, is to view retail as a long-term play, one that requires some necessary concessions in the short run.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-enthusiasm-and-adaptation\">Enthusiasm and adaptation<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>If fundamentals are anything to go by, the retail sector is one of the strongest in all commercial real estate. According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/why-retail-shines-on-report\/\">data from CBRE<\/a>, approximately 4.7 million square feet of space came online in the first quarter of this year, the lowest figure in more than a decade. At the same time, asking rents have increased by 2.4 percent, while overall net absorption remained positive for three consecutive quarters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThese are all tailwinds,\u201d said KPR Centers managing director Danel Katz at a panel discussion themed around <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/in-a-topsy-turvy-world-capital-flows-to-cre\/\">capital raising<\/a> and deal underwriting. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe wish we had more vacancy, but this period is the best I\u2019ve seen as far as fundamentals go,\u201d Katz added. \u201cRetail is the only asset class where you can earn a spread over your debt and get positive cash flow.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When asked if the current demand is the peak of a cycle instead of a sector poised for long-term stability, the panelists seemed skeptical on account of the fundamentals and institutional investor interest. But some of their demographic strength and net operating income-centric underwriting strategies suggested otherwise. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe can look at any shopping center, and unless the sales are there, we\u2019re gone,\u201d Katz emphasized. \u201cYou want that occupancy rate in the high 90s.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity has-very-light-gray-to-cyan-bluish-gray-gradient-background has-background is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/ground-control-retailers-are-leaning-into-buying-their-spaces\/\">Ground Control: Retailers Are Leaning Into Buying Their Spaces<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity has-very-light-gray-to-cyan-bluish-gray-gradient-background has-background is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Blackstone principal Elena Clarfield agreed with the latter position but also highlighted a more tailored investment strategy for Perform Properties, her firm\u2019s $10 billion retail investment arm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s steering more toward open-air shopping centers, high street retail and urban <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/luxury-retail-in-2026-where-opportunity-lies\/\">luxury stores<\/a> than shopping malls and power centers, which are struggling due to a string of recent big-box <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/saks-global-bankruptcy-raises-questions-for-cre\/\">bankruptcy filings<\/a>. \u201c(They\u2019re) downside-protected because the fundamentals have improved, even if properties can\u2019t quite grow from outsized NOI growth,\u201d Clarfield said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the underwriting front, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/what-higher-oil-prices-could-mean-for-retail-interest-rates\/\">economic volatility<\/a> has led to more cash flow dependent and seller-centric investment strategies, even for the most well-capitalized buyers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group cmw-cpe-newsletter\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group cmw-cpe-newsletter-content\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group cmw-cpe-newsletter-content-img\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1200\" data-attachment-id=\"1004794779\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/cpe-sneak-peek-square\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/04\/CPE-Sneak-Peek-square.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,1200\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" 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Coming soon.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<form class=\"cmw-inline-newsletter\" action=\"https:\/\/whatcounts.com\/bin\/listctrl\" method=\"POST\">\n  <input type=\"hidden\" name=\"slid\" value=\"5C84B893BD6D939E33A6A73C89655EA8\" \/>\n  <input type=\"hidden\" name=\"cmd\" value=\"subscribe\" \/>\n  <input type=\"hidden\" name=\"wxuiversionfirst\" value=\"\" \/>\n \n  <input type=\"hidden\" name=\"errors_to\" value=\"\" \/>\n\n  <label class=\"sr-only\" for=\"email\">Email<\/label>\n  <input type=\"email\" id=\"email\" name=\"email\" required maxlength=\"65\"\n         placeholder=\"Your email address\"\n         oninvalid=\"this.setCustomValidity('Please enter a valid email address')\"\n         oninput=\"this.setCustomValidity('')\"\/>\n\n  <button type=\"submit\">Sign up now<\/button>\n<\/form>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Katie Grissom, managing director &amp; global head of retail at Nuveen Real Estate, said that when she joined the firm, the standard hold period was 10 years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cNow, we\u2019re mainly underwriting five-year holds,&#8221; Grissom said. &#8220;There\u2019s also lot of focus on what percentage of our NOI is coming from tenants that are non-discretionary in nature, in addition to an asset size, liquidity and demographic focus.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf there\u2019s no ability to grow NOI in the near-to-medium term, be more judicious about exposure to box tenants and anchors,\u201d Clarfield cautioned.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P. David Bramble, a co-founder and managing partner at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/mcbs-on-a-mission-for-development-success\/\">MCB Real Estate<\/a> struck a similar tone in a panel discussing dealmaking trends. \u201cThe expertise of the operator is more valuable than it has been in a really long time,\u201d he said. \u201cSeeing the changes that you make at a community is its own reward, but you\u2019ll never get there if the math doesn\u2019t work.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-view-from-ground-level\">The view from ground level<\/h2>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a0c8154df499&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized wp-lightbox-container\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" data-attachment-id=\"1004799123\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/icsc-special-report-short-term-holds-long-term-visions\/icscstakeholders\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1440\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ICSCStakeholders\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg?w=1024\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on-async--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg\" alt=\"ICSC's Stephanie Cegielski moderates a panel discussion with Donna Blair of Pacific Retail Capital Partners, Paul Kurzawa of Centennial Real Estate, Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield's Dominic Lowe and Jean Paul Wardy of CenterCal Properties\" class=\"wp-image-1004799123\" style=\"width:400px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg?resize=300,225 300w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg?resize=768,576 768w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg?resize=1024,768 1024w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2026\/05\/ICSCStakeholders.jpg?resize=1536,1152 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\taria-label=\"Enlarge\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.imageButtonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.imageButtonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">ICSC&#8217;s Stephanie Cegielski moderates a panel discussion with Donna Blair of Pacific Retail Capital Partners, Paul Kurzawa of Centennial Real Estate, Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield&#8217;s Dominic Lowe and Jean Paul Wardy of CenterCal Properties. <em>Photo by Gabriel Frank<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Despite the more sober viewpoints held by the investment committees, retail developers and operators view the sector\u2019s evolution as a learning opportunity, one they hope can better connect them with customers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cPart of what we evaluate now is not only what the customer wants, but those who are not coming to our shops and how to attract them,\u201d said Paul Kurzawa, president of Centennial Real Estate. Equally important to a strong tenant roster is a space\u2019s ability to foster human connections. \u201cGen Z wants to be at the mall, they want to experience things, and retail stores need to help them make that connection.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Winning these sought-after no-shows can sometimes necessitate the redevelopment of an existing asset. \u201cThe best thing is land, whether it\u2019s large parking lots, vacant boxes or underutilized strip centers,\u201d said Donna Blair, chief operating officer at Pacific Retail Capital Partners. If one doesn\u2019t plan to sell, they need a \u201clong-term vision,\u201d for an otherwise struggling retail center, Blair advised.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For the stores themselves, stakeholders are leaning into more flexible <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/2025-retail-net-lease-sales-volumes-and-cap-rates\/\">leasing models<\/a>, opting for shorter-term stays as master-planned projects come together. \u201cThat often gives us more flexibility to control the real estate when we need to,\u201d Kurzawa noted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Equally important to what\u2019s in a store is what surrounds it, with stakeholders leaning into media, dynamic space activation and experiential platforms to drive foot traffic and NOI alike. \u201cThings like a Van Gogh exhibit, Bodies or an Imaginarium may be temporary, but they always give people a new reason to visit,\u201d Blair said. \u201cIt\u2019s amazing how much capital pickleball courts need, but if they\u2019re important to the consumer, they\u2019re worth it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At the same time, some even less intensive capital strategies such as greenery-centric landscaping and a smooth parking experience can make all the difference when it comes to a property\u2019s long-term success, according to Dominic Lowe, chief operating officer at Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt doesn\u2019t take massive amounts of capital,&#8221; Lowe said. &#8220;It takes ingenuity.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Speakers were optimistic about the sector\u2019s long-term prospects, even if they remain somewhat risk-averse.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3012,"featured_media":1004799123,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21782,21808,21825,21783,1593,21742,21749,51037],"tags":[32892,52869,33018,49291,37491,34941,50512],"class_list":["post-1004799121","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-development","category-featured","category-finance","category-investment","category-las-vegas","category-latest","category-retail","category-trends","tag-blackstone","tag-centennial-real-estate","tag-icsc","tag-mcb-real-estate","tag-nuveen","tag-pacific-retail-capital-partners","tag-unibail-rodamco-westfield"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v23.4 (Yoast SEO v24.6) - 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