{"id":1004764148,"date":"2025-07-18T07:39:49","date_gmt":"2025-07-18T15:39:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/?p=1004764148"},"modified":"2026-04-16T23:28:58","modified_gmt":"2026-04-17T07:28:58","slug":"sustainability-street-the-truth-about-mass-timber","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/sustainability-street-the-truth-about-mass-timber\/","title":{"rendered":"Sustainability Street: The Truth About Mass Timber"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe allow=\"autoplay *; encrypted-media *; fullscreen *; clipboard-write\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"175\" style=\"width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:10px;\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/ro\/podcast\/sustainability-street-the-truth-about-mass-timber\/id1552202952?i=1000717971640\" ><\/iframe>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a28b47667eb2&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" class=\"alignright size-full is-resized wp-lightbox-container\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"675\" data-attachment-id=\"1004765396\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/sustainability-street-the-truth-about-mass-timber\/sustainability-street-070825\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2025\/07\/Sustainability-Street-070825.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"900,675\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Sustainability Street &#8211; 070825\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2025\/07\/Sustainability-Street-070825.jpg?w=900\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on-async--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2025\/07\/Sustainability-Street-070825.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1004765396\" style=\"width:404px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2025\/07\/Sustainability-Street-070825.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2025\/07\/Sustainability-Street-070825.jpg?resize=300,225 300w, https:\/\/www.commercialsearch.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/46\/2025\/07\/Sustainability-Street-070825.jpg?resize=768,576 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\taria-label=\"Enlarge\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.imageButtonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.imageButtonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Welcome back to Sustainability Street, our podcast on the intersection of commercial real estate and the world we live in.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For this episode, I&#8217;m talking about mass timber construction with Varun Kohli, director of sustainability for Corgan, a global architecture and design firm with 19 offices. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In a recent study, sustainability and research teams at Corgan joined together to get a better understanding of the lifecycle of mass timber\u2014from forest to installation and beyond\u2014and the variables that impact its use. 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